I could've sworn that someone in the thread said something like, "You don't understand
relationships man" and I was going to say that was my favorite part of the thread but maybe I just imagined it or read it in another thread summoned it from the vibes I was getting.
I'll give you Utena, but unless you're specifically talking about Uranus/Neptune, I'm not sure how "lesbian" Sailor Moon is. The central relationship of the series is heterosexual, and three out of five of the main characters are boy-crazy/largely preoccupied with boys or past relationships with boys.
That I'll admit could just be a case of specific exposure, as I know just enough about Sailor Moon to recognize that one of that couple is her favorite character. In a very "Of course she is" way to me.
What all of you keep neglecting is that this is a western childrens cartoon.Yes,having a lesbian couple in a tv show or a movie is safe and pandering.Yes having an anime with girl on girl(or boy on boy)action is nothing new.But an american cartoon for kids?Heck,some even say that nick was jerking them around so much because they killed their villain in season one,because they think it was too adult.So to even get this past them is neither safe,nor pandering.
This may also be a case of specific exposure, but I'm really not sure that I buy the argument that the franchise is for kids, as it seems that the people who are really in to it are the people my age. I would guess that the creators are at least aware of the adult audience even if they're not exactly shooting for them. And you can pander to what is not your primary (I don't actually believe children are the primary) audience. There's the idea of Parental Bonus. Or perhaps Tumblr bonus in this case, as it still seems to me (from the outside looking in) that the relationship is not for the 10 year olds watching it but the 20-somethings who exploded over the ending and will now generate free publicity about how awesome and brave and progressive the creators are and aren't they great people we should watch what they make forever
. The italics there indicate exaggeration.
Dropping this in the last minute of the last episode isn't brave. At that point, viewers have already made their investment... what're they gonna do? Stop watching? They risked nothing.
I think we're essentially on the same wavelength with this and teh big refeal