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Thomas

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Thomas » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:00 pm

Oh yeah. I hadn't even noticed the fork hands until you pointed them out. It's kind of cool the artistic decisions that go into creating what at first looks like a fairly simple design
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby SpammyV » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:37 pm

So now he'll have more of a reason to say there are art delays between pages.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:26 pm

You know,this shows why you should never rely on having just a single character that has knowledge(ways of possessing/slowly killing you) in your party.A bard with high lore would be a great backup guy.Its almost like this party was poorly optimized(which is what you get when you let elan hire for you).
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Lachlan the Sane
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby Lachlan the Sane » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:10 am

Daemian Lucifer wrote:You know,this shows why you should never rely on having just a single character that has knowledge(ways of possessing/slowly killing you) in your party.A bard with high lore would be a great backup guy.Its almost like this party was poorly optimized(which is what you get when you let elan hire for you).

Yeah, munchkin-wise, none of the party works out that great:

- Roy's about as good as single-class fighters get, especially with that concentration-killing feat and his anti-undead sword (both very useful considering that the campaign villain is an epic lich), but he's a friggin' single-class fighter, man.
- Vaarsuvius is a perfectly good evoker, but who the heck bars Conjuration? (Says the man currently playing an elven Evocation/Conjuration wizard, with the goal of becoming an Archmage).
- Hayley makes for a damn fine archer, but she seems to be a bit overspecialised, and her skill division doesn't seem to be great.
- Elan's got a good build, especially with the Dashing Swordsman business, but at the beginning of the comic his low Int (and thus not great skill points as Bards go), strange skill point allocation, and lack of actual skill with his illusion skills were crippling. He has become substantially more competent as the comic went along, because character arc, and is probably one of the biggest contributors to the gradual competency increase of the order.
- Durkon is a good healer, but has rubbish Cha, and is therefore locked out of about half the typical Cleric skill set.
- Beklar is a Small character with a melee build who uses daggers. 'Nuff said.

Still, would the comic be anywhere near as interesting if it were about a perfectly optimised party?
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Mon May 19, 2014 9:34 pm

I have this strange feeling that a god is trying to tell them something.

Also,I like it how useful a fighter with 18 strength is.
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Narkis

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Narkis » Tue May 20, 2014 9:12 pm

The last panel sums it up nicely. I do believe he's gonna talk his way out though. He's yet to bring ruin to the dwarven lands, after all.

And Roy's strength is probably in the 20s. He got a belt of giant strength somewhat recently, iirc.
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby Kavonde » Tue May 20, 2014 9:29 pm

There's a whole series of threads devoted to sussing out the stats and gear of every character, y'know.

Personally, given Roy's level, I've been assuming that the Belt of Giant Strength is at minimum a +4, and a +6 wouldn't be out of the question. Given his two-handed greatsword build, Roy's Strength likely started high (around 16, perhaps?) and he's put stat boosts from levels 4, 8, and 12 into it. That'd put his Strength around 23-25, possibly a bit higher. (The Class and Level Geekery thread cites a strip where Roy jumps over a pit as proof of at least a 20 natural Strength by level 9, which would mean Roy started with 18 Strength. I dunno; Roy's got an amazing stat spread already, and giving him 18 Strength at level 1 just seems a bit ridiculous.)

Anyway, yeah, plot. Vampire-Durkon's not going to be found out just yet, I'm afraid. Rich ended the last book with a cliffhanger about V-Durk, he won't resolve it until at least halfway through this one.
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby dudecon » Mon May 26, 2014 12:34 pm

Kavonde wrote:... Anyway, yeah, plot. Vampire-Durkon's not going to be found out just yet, I'm afraid...
Well done.
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Thomas

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Thomas » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:12 am

I feel like this whole chunk of the story can be summed up as 'wizards are OP'
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:11 am

Thomas wrote:I feel like this whole chunk of the story can be summed up as 'wizards are OP'


Which they are.Also,I now want to see rocwing.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:02 pm

Now we know why she is called hel.Also,a smart chant she has for her followers.
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby Lachlan the Sane » Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:53 am

Daemian Lucifer wrote:
Thomas wrote:I feel like this whole chunk of the story can be summed up as 'wizards are OP'


Which they are.Also,I now want to see rocwing.

That's definitely going to pay off by the end of this book then :)
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:04 pm

Construct making 101:Never make a construct intelligent enough to realize it is just a tool.Even if you make them unable to kill you themselves,they will resent you so much to find a loophole.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:56 pm

Case in point.Also,a good reason to not be a leader if you are from a race with intelligence penalty.Its a surprise he lasted that long.

Also,Rich is a clear acolyte of GRRM seeing how many of his named characters have died over the years.
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Supahewok

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Supahewok » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:38 pm

"You were never as clever as you thought you were," indeed.

Its nice that when Rich updates lately its usually multiple pages that look the best they've ever been... but being down to updating maybe twice a month is... well, it ain't great. (not as bad as MegaTokyo, if that's still around, but still) Would rather he'd just released these pages singly. They all work both collectively and individually.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri May 22, 2015 1:50 pm

The updates have sped up lately,and its been great.Also,durkula is such perfect reverse redcloak.Now all he has to do is resurrect one of durkons relatives(start of darkness spoiler) to achieve full opposite status.
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Supahewok

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Supahewok » Fri May 22, 2015 3:49 pm

Yes, I complain on these obscure forums and in two weeks he speeds it up.

Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

Well, maybe a little. He probably wants to make me look like a jerk :(

I haven't read either of the prequel books, (they're only available in print right?) do you mind spelling out the spoiler?
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri May 22, 2015 7:58 pm

Supahewok wrote:I haven't read either of the prequel books, (they're only available in print right?) do you mind spelling out the spoiler?


Yup,they are only available in print.But the shipping is reasonable,so I do recommend buying the two.Heck,if he was selling the colored versions as well,I would be tempted to get those too(the prequels were made in black and white in order to reduce printing cost).The second prequel(or the first one?),the start of darkness,is especially good,and Id make it a mandatory reading material for everyone who wants to flesh out their villains.Because it really does flesh out redcloack and xykon,making you understand them without making you sympathize with them,because they are villains.Well ok,maybe there is some sympathy to have for redcloack,but only a smidge.

The spoiler concerns the ending of the start of darkness,when redcloack does the ultimate evil thing for him.Which is the opposite of what I wrote in that spoiler thing.Its not a massive spoiler,but if you plan on ever reading the comics,you should avoid it.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:35 pm

Ahhh,so thats what durkula is planning.Also it finally explains the prophecy from long,LOOOOONG ago.And I think its high time we see if redcloak will learn of this and maybe even intervene,because this would pretty much throw a wrench in his plans.
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Thomas

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Thomas » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:01 am

Which prophecy is that?
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby SpammyV » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:00 am

Daemian Lucifer wrote:Ahhh,so thats what durkula is planning.Also it finally explains the prophecy from long,LOOOOONG ago.And I think its high time we see if redcloak will learn of this and maybe even intervene,because this would pretty much throw a wrench in his plans.


Y'know I think most people who live on the world would have their plans interfered with by the gods destroying the world.
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4th Dimension

Re: Order of the stick

Postby 4th Dimension » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:04 pm

So he plans to kill off or convert enough of the other priests in order to swing the vote in the destroy camp?
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Re: Order of the stick

Postby Steve C » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:10 pm

Those priests had no standing at the Godsmoot and didn't have a vote. That's why he could get away with killing them and not the others.
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Daemian Lucifer

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:24 pm

Thomas wrote:Which prophecy is that?


Oh yeah,I think that one was in the origin of pcs.Sorry.It was long ago,like Ive said.

Basically it says this:Durkon will bring doom to the northern lands when he returns.
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Supahewok

Re: Order of the stick

Postby Supahewok » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:38 pm

Actually, to be even more precise: High Priest of Odin to High Priest of Thor (sending spell, I think): "You have a young cleric named Durkon Thundershield in your temple. When next he returns home, he will bring death and destruction for us all." All could be the dwarves, the Northern Lands, or the world. You wouldn't think a word like 'all' could be vague, but leave it to Burlew to figure it out.

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