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Daemian Lucifer

Movies are cool as well

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:19 pm

Well since we have a books thread,why not a movie thread as well?

But unlike that one,I wont go about what is the best movie.I will mention the few good ones Ive watched recently,few of the gems that Ive rewatched,and a few enjoyably bad ones.

So,the good ones:
Django unchained - One of the few movies that Ive watched in theater,and I dont regret it at all.Loved every second of it.And Im not a tarantino fanboy either.I hate from dusk till dawn,and think that kill bill and inglorious basterds are just ok.The performances of Christoph Waltz and Leonardo DiCaprio were great,and I always love seeing Samuel L.M.F. Jackson on screen,especially as a villain.

Argo - It was a very enjoyable movie.Im glad to see Affleck finally setting into directors seat because it suits him.Though he is a decent actor in some of the movies,like dogma.

The hobbit - So far Im enjoying this much more than lord of the rings.I always did say that this is a way better book to turn into a movie,and Im glad that theyve decided to do it.Also looking forward to seeing it turned into a screen cap comic by someone*nudgenudgewinkwink*

Cloud atlas - Really interesting what they did with all the make up,and Hugo Weaving in drag is a sight to behold.And yes,I know how people are saying that make up is bad,but the point of it wasnt to completely mask someone,but to let you know which of the few actors it is,while still conveying that they are of a different race and gender.

The avengers - Another one that Ive watched in theater and enjoyed a lot.And Im not even a comic fan.Im glad that marvel is doing so well with its superhero movies,because,aside from the hulk ones,they were all pretty fun.

The gems that Ive rewatched recently:
Terminator 2 - One of the best movies ever for me.Still has awesome cgi that dwarfs this crapfest recent movies think is cool.

The usual suspects - Its great rewatching such a movie after a long time,and discovering all the little gems youve missed back then.Maybe I should go and rewatch fight club these days.

The shawshank redemption - This one was on tv recently,and I stopped just to watch a bit of it,and ended up watching it whole.Rarely does a movie captivate me like that.Must be because it has god starring in it.

The enjoyably bad ones:
Twilight 5 - Wow,does this movie suck.But the ways in which it fails are so mesmerizing.The special effects were laughable,the acting is horrendous,the story is idiotic,and pacing is all over the place,and yet I simply could help and enjoy every second of it,laughing out loud at numerous places.I almost feel bad for enjoying it so much.
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Re: Movies are cool as well

Postby Lovecrafter » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:15 pm

One of my personal favorites is the 1947 film T-Men. I just love how this film plays with shadows.
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Postby Thomas » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:39 pm

I don't know if I'd say that the Hobbit is better than Lord of the Rings, the tone isn't so consistent and it's not so epic (whilst being literally more epic than Lord of the Rings)

And it feels like the Hobbit as it is cut now is the equivalent of Lord of the Rings extended addition (which is the better version but not so suited for theatrical release)

Skyfall - Was fantastic and the way you can tell it's fantastic is that all the people who hated Casino Royale (me) says it's back to proper Bond and all the people who love Casino Royale say it's continuing to cast off the dregs of the former films. Bond with style, brilliant visuals but without the 'checklist' feel of later Bond films. The only awful thing (and it's pretty horrific) is the way the plot handles the Bond girl. Barely noticeable in the film, but the more you think about it the dirtier you feel

For good films in general

Memento - A story told backwards. Each scene ends where the scene before it began. It tells the story of someone with the real world more common version of amnesia, can remember old memories but is unable to form new ones, and the way they tell the story recreates that, because in every scene we have no idea how they got there or why. This film is a masterpiece in playing with expectations, everytime the scene changes the new context completely changes what we previously believe. Not a film to be watched when suffering from Insomnia but gripping right until the end (which is the beginning)

And as a rule of thumb, all films written by the Nolan brothers are fantastic. The Following, Inception, The Dark Knight, Batman Begins. The Prestige is so close to being one of the greatest films of all time. Specifically 5 seconds away. The very last scene of the film ruins it.

Scott Pilgrim - Has the distinction of being one of the greatest films, books and comic ever made. There is no adaptation better than this film. It feels like what would have been made if the original author had been a gifted film make instead of comic artist. And in contrast to The Prestige, it was almost absolutely ruined in the last scene (I had a friend who went to a pre-screening and apparently they were originally considering an ending where Scott got with Knives*shudder)

House of the Flying Daggers/Hero- Two incredible chinese martial art films, mostly concentrating on beauty and philosophy over pure action. The action itself can be a little...weird. Lots of wirework and it's clearly there for it's symbolic meaning over cool value.

Serenity/Doctor Horrible's Sing Along Blog - As a rule of thumb, everything by Joss Whedon is incredible. The surprising thing about DHSAB is the songs are amazing. The story is really good and it will always leave you a little stunned. Serenity shouldn't be good, it should be averagely meh, but someone how I found myself watching it literally dozens of times. I'd finish and watch it again in the same day. Very enjoyable.
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Postby Steve C » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:03 pm

Daemian Lucifer wrote:The gems that Ive rewatched recently:
Terminator 2 - One of the best movies ever for me.Still has awesome cgi that dwarfs this crapfest recent movies think is cool.

That's cause Terminator 2 was a James Cameron movie and he set a pretty high bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4VA1ORhkgQ
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Postby Thomas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:22 pm

Just finished watching House of Flying Daggers again and it really is an incredible film, was (surprisingly) surprised by the plot as well. It's such a cool feeling to be able to reexperience a plot twist again fresh.
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Daemian Lucifer

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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Tue May 21, 2013 9:48 am

So star trek reboot 2 is apparently star trek 2 reboot.Wasnt the point of the reboot to do new things with the franchise?But I guess I will watch it as soon as it comes to dvd because sylar+sherlock.

Thoughts?
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Postby Retsam » Tue May 21, 2013 5:58 pm

Daemian Lucifer wrote:So star trek reboot 2 is apparently star trek 2 reboot.Wasnt the point of the reboot to do new things with the franchise?But I guess I will watch it as soon as it comes to dvd because sylar+sherlock.

Thoughts?


I had a friend point out that actually having a lot of parallels between the reboots and the originals makes sense. The timeline only diverged at Kirk's birth, and while obviously a lot happened since then, it also makes sense that events set in motion before the timeline split would still happen in one form or another.

And, hey, for what it's worth, I really enjoyed the movie.
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Postby JadedDM » Tue May 21, 2013 9:11 pm

Did you guys know that cold fusion is very cold? I guess that's why it's called 'cold' fusion!
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Postby Starkos127 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:31 am

JadedDM wrote:Did you guys know that cold fusion is very cold? I guess that's why it's called 'cold' fusion!


What? No way! Next you'll tell me volcanoes roar like dinosaurs.
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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Wed May 22, 2013 3:32 am

JadedDM wrote:Did you guys know that cold fusion is very cold? I guess that's why it's called 'cold' fusion!


Well of course.Havent you played starcraft?
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Postby Kavonde » Wed May 22, 2013 3:35 am

Just got back from seeing Star Trek, and yeah, I actually really enjoyed it. ("Cold fusion" headslapper aside.) I don't have any particular great insights here, just that it was a fun, pretty, well-put-together movie with a solid script, some good laughs, and a few really neat twists. The big role reversal at the end was maybe a bit cheesy, but I enjoyed it anyway. And Benedict Cumberbatch was basically playing Sherlock, but hey, the guy is really good at it, so I'm okay with him continuing to do so.

Also, poor Mickey. First Rose dumps him, then he moves to a bleak, war-torn alternate dimension, and then he's forced to become an suicide bomber. Guy cannot catch a break.
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Postby Rebel Canuck » Thu May 23, 2013 5:32 am

I also just got back from Star Trek, and it was pretty good. I never was into Trek much growing up, so this is my first time seeing a lot of these characters, but I really like them. I do feel a bit bad for the people who loved Trek and are now watching it being turned into "Just another action movie franchise (tm)" because I know that really wasn't what it was all about before.

It works for me though, I enjoyed it and hope they keep going. The quality of writing and character development is much higher than most action movies, at least.
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Postby Narratorway » Fri May 24, 2013 3:14 am

As just another dumb action movie, Into Darkness is perfectly serviceable. It's paced well, has great energy and for the most part keeps up the momentum. I have no problem with turn-da-brain off entertainment and am not tethered enough to TOS in order to feel some legacy is getting plowed, so I had fun.

But I gotta ask regarding the 'other' recent tentpole summer release: does anyone else here think the Iron Man movies are really reeeeeeally stupid? Like, those movies are carried almost entirely on Robert Downey Jr. with a little help from 'not bad' direction and some clever dialogue, but the actual stories for these movies are the dumbest things on the planet. If it were anyone else in that suit, people would haaaaate these movies. I damn near guarantee it.
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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri May 24, 2013 3:37 am

Narratorway wrote:But I gotta ask regarding the 'other' recent tentpole summer release: does anyone else here think the Iron Man movies are really reeeeeeally stupid? Like, those movies are carried almost entirely on Robert Downey Jr. with a little help from 'not bad' direction and some clever dialogue, but the actual stories for these movies are the dumbest things on the planet. If it were anyone else in that suit, people would haaaaate these movies. I damn near guarantee it.


The main stories do have some really stupid things in them,but they arent that bad.And the dialogue is witty.But yes,it mostly hinges on RDJ and his charisma.
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Postby krellen » Fri May 24, 2013 1:08 pm

I just wanted to let you all know that every person that says "I never liked Star Trek but I like these new movies" is like another dagger into my soul.

We're all geeks here. Most of us appreciate things outside the mainstream. How can you so blithely cheer someone being robbed of their love just because it's now something you can "turn your brain off" and enjoy?

I'm very sad right now.
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Postby Humanoid » Fri May 24, 2013 2:34 pm

I never liked Star Trek but I liked that one movie with the time travel silliness. Though to be fair I've only ever watched two Star Trek movies, the other one being the silly crossover one. So perhaps my perception of Star Trek is skewed towards the very silly.


Movies I've watched recently: early Hitchcock in The 39 Steps; Wong Kar-Wai's artsy wuxia film Ashes of Time (Redux); Jim Jarmusch's moody Down By Law; and Al Reinert's Apollo Program documentary For All Mankind.

Staying on topic, just placed an order for the following:
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Band of Outsiders
Medium Cool
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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri May 24, 2013 2:50 pm

krellen wrote:I just wanted to let you all know that every person that says "I never liked Star Trek but I like these new movies" is like another dagger into my soul.

We're all geeks here. Most of us appreciate things outside the mainstream. How can you so blithely cheer someone being robbed of their love just because it's now something you can "turn your brain off" and enjoy?

I'm very sad right now.


Look on the bright side:At least no one said "I never liked star trek,but that insurrection movie won me over".
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Postby Rebel Canuck » Fri May 24, 2013 3:46 pm

krellen wrote:I just wanted to let you all know that every person that says "I never liked Star Trek but I like these new movies" is like another dagger into my soul.

We're all geeks here. Most of us appreciate things outside the mainstream. How can you so blithely cheer someone being robbed of their love just because it's now something you can "turn your brain off" and enjoy?

I'm very sad right now.



We've all been there. Times are a changing, everyone's fandoms are being exploited and changed to suit more mainstream interests, it's just kind of a fact of life at this point. I just hope things start to step up and fill those niches left behind, again.

To be fair, I haven't actually seen the original Star Trek series, so I don't know if I would like it or not. I did enjoy what I've seen of The Next Generation though.
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Postby Zukhramm » Fri May 24, 2013 6:45 pm

krellen wrote:I just wanted to let you all know that every person that says "I never liked Star Trek but I like these new movies" is like another dagger into my soul.

We're all geeks here. Most of us appreciate things outside the mainstream. How can you so blithely cheer someone being robbed of their love just because it's now something you can "turn your brain off" and enjoy?

I'm very sad right now.


I can't choose not to like something because you do not. And I personally know a Star Trek fan, and he has given me permission not to hate the new movies.
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Postby krellen » Fri May 24, 2013 7:34 pm

Zukhramm wrote:I can't choose not to like something because you do not.

You can, actually. That's totally a thing you can do.

I suspect few of you have ever had something that really defined your youth taken away from you yet. And you might never, because you're younger enough that you grew up in a time after niches were a thing that was allowed. But having my niches taken away from me has been pretty much the entirety of my adulthood, and I am more than a little tired of not being able to be upset about it because I'm supposed to be happy that other people enjoy a thing. When do I get to enjoy a thing again?
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Postby Narratorway » Fri May 24, 2013 7:56 pm

When you pop it in your media player or netflix it. TOS didn't disappear from the planet because JJ Abrams made a couple movies.

And don't even try to talk to me about destroyed youth.
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Postby Sudanna » Fri May 24, 2013 8:02 pm

I don't think anyone says you can't be pissed off at new things. I think having an excuse to do that is sort of the entire point of getting old. It's just that not everyone has to be pissed off with you. :p

*aso does not like the new Trek movies and will adore TNG until forever ends*
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Postby krellen » Fri May 24, 2013 8:05 pm

Narratorway wrote:When you pop it in your media player or netflix it. TOS didn't disappear from the planet because JJ Abrams made a couple movies.

I honestly thought it would take more than the very next post to throw this one at me. Let me just say that my response is very unfriendly. "Rewatch your old stuff, old man" is not an acceptable response.

Narratorway wrote:And don't even try to talk to me about destroyed youth.

That's not comparable. Everyone agrees with you that one sucks. :P
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Postby Narratorway » Fri May 24, 2013 8:15 pm

krellen wrote:"Rewatch your old stuff, old man" is not an acceptable response.
Why not?

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Oh. Alright then.
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Postby krellen » Fri May 24, 2013 8:20 pm

Narratorway wrote:
krellen wrote:"Rewatch your old stuff, old man" is not an acceptable response.
Why not?

Because I should be allowed to enjoy new experiences as much as you should, which is not just a dismissive "because of reasons" thing. If you don't want to discuss this civilly, why don't you try just ignoring me and let me bitch into the wind instead?

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