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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby SpammyV » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:19 am

So I usually call Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency a nerdy show not because it's all Star Trek jokes but because the subject matter (the first season was about a time-travelling vigilante inventor vs. an evil body-swapping cult) and the humor falls into a nerdy style of concepts and wordplay. But it's also a nerdy show because the longer you watch it the more you're going to recognize some actor from a sci-fi series like me last week just sitting along and suddenly going "Oh hey Bra'tac it's been a while since Stargate SG-1 huh."
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Postby Steve C » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:32 am

That's more that a lot of sci-fi is filmed in Canada and Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency is filmed in Canada. It's the same group of actors going around and around on a genre treadmill. It's both cool and a little annoying.
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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:45 am

Depends on the actor and the makeup.And,of course,how much crap they give during the shoot.
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Postby SpammyV » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:35 am

Highlights from this week's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency include the least competent sword fight and the explanation of how all the pieces fall in to place and how everything is in fact connected.

Dirk Gently's real superpower is he's been so exposed to all this stuff he can piece together the moon logic of the case.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby Daemian Lucifer » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:25 am

I saw it.And stranger things.And south park.And you have to warn the whole world!The whites,they are the worst!
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby Andrew » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:41 pm

I saw the first episode of The Gifted last night.

I really really liked it.

As has been said, it reminded me of season 1 Heroes and I loved season 1 (and 2) Heroes.

The references to the, x-men and the brotherhood are neat too. And I suppose the chick who got caught is Magneto's daughter or something??
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Postby Steve C » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:13 am

Andrew wrote:I saw the first episode of The Gifted last night.
I really really liked it.

I decided to watch the first episode of The Gifted based on your recommendation. I concur with your opinion.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby krellen » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:19 pm

Andrew wrote:The references to the, x-men and the brotherhood are neat too. And I suppose the chick who got caught is Magneto's daughter or something??

She is Polaris, who is Magneto's daughter in the comics, and a showrunner has stated she will be revealed as such at some point in the show.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby JadedDM » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:55 pm

I've been watching The Gifted since it started. It's pretty good so far. It seems to take place in its own continuity, though, not the same as the movies or any other TV shows.
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Postby Steve C » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:15 am

I'm also watching Marvel's Runaways. It's a good contrast against The Gifted. I've seen 2 episodes of both. So far Gifted is better. Runaways has potential there- I think? Gifted was good straight out of the gate. Runaways is slow and hinting at the potential it has to be good. Runaways kind of shoots itself in the foot with how unlikable all the kids are to begin with. I expect that to change. There's no show otherwise.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby JadedDM » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:23 pm

I'm enjoying both shows at the moment.

They're both way better than The Inhumans was, although granted that is a low bar to clear.
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Postby Steve C » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:50 am

Strange thing is I can't put finger on why Inhumans was bad. It just was.
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Postby Steve C » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:22 am

I'm still watching The Gifted. I still really really like it. Only thing is that it's turning my thinking around pretty hard. I was on team Xavier's peace and cooperation side. The more The Gifted I watch the more I'm team Magneto's philosophy. The interesting part is that the show isn't even touching on that.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby krellen » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:29 pm

Steve C wrote:Strange thing is I can't put finger on why Inhumans was bad. It just was.

Lots of dead air. Unlikable characters. Backwards values. No clear plan where they were going.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby Andrew » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:18 pm

Steve C wrote:I decided to watch the first episode of The Gifted based on your recommendation. I concur with your opinion.

I'm glad you're enjoying it. I still am as well.

I'm up to episode 6 now and it has gotten better. There was a slow episode in the middle there - episode 2 or 3 I think it was - but in general it has been excellent viewing so far.

Struggling to see what the end game is but I'm not going to worry about that for now. I'm just going to enjoy it while it's good. There are so few good shows on these days.

krellen wrote:She is Polaris, who is Magneto's daughter in the comics, and a showrunner has stated she will be revealed as such at some point in the show.

Ah yeah I figured as much.

I never read X-Men. I've only watched the movies and a spattering of the cartoons when I was in school. It's nice to know that they're pulling from the comics and not just making X-Men up.
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Postby Steve C » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:02 pm

I've finished up to eps9 of The Gifted and loved every episode. It is straight up good. The icing is that it feels very different to other shows. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. I like different. Sure superheroes etc, but that's not what I mean. It's got character stories and plots like better than Heroes. Again not what I mean. The part that feels fresh is the dis-empowerment. The refugee aspect. It's really got a Jews-running-from-the-Nazis vibe without being a depressing slog. <cough>Man in the High Castle.<cough>

It's not without it's problems. Mainly the show writers seem to forget that one of their main characters can create barriers. Seems pretty obvious if people are shooting to put barriers to block bullets and passageways. A few times I've rolled my eyes at the movie-logic used.

I've only watched the movies and a spattering of the cartoons when I was in school. It's nice to know that they're pulling from the comics and not just making X-Men up.
Well they kind of are. I know Eclipse is a brand new mutant they made up for the show. I'm pretty sure Dreamer is too. Some are so far down the Marvel ranks that they might as well have been created for the show. That doesn't bother me. As long as they are interesting and not lame (Inhumans) then it's fine.
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Re: TV shows are cool

Postby krellen » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Steve C wrote:I'm pretty sure Dreamer is too.

(Beautiful) Dreamer is a Morlock in the comics.
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Postby Daemian Lucifer » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:39 pm

Andrew wrote: It's nice to know that they're pulling from the comics and not just making X-Men up.


Seeing how many x people there are,its kind of tough to make up an xmen.Whatever you can think of,it has already been done by someone at least once.

Steve C wrote:It's not without it's problems. Mainly the show writers seem to forget that one of their main characters can create barriers. Seems pretty obvious if people are shooting to put barriers to block bullets and passageways. A few times I've rolled my eyes at the movie-logic used.


To be fair,she is still a frightened teen.A frightened teen freezing up in fear and forgetting they can do stuff is not that far fetched.
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Postby Steve C » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:28 am

If her freezing up was a plot point, then sure, ok. As it is now it just feels like the writers screwing up. It's not terrible bad writing. It just takes me out of the story every time it happens to remind me I'm watching a Fox TV show.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:43 am

That happens in a lot of shows though where super powers are prevalent.

Look at the Flash (yes, I know, not the best example). If he actually used his powers properly then nearly every 'villain of the week' episode would be over in under 5 minutes. Instead he runs around in circles, freezes at the worst possible time and lets himself be hit in situations where he clearly has enough time to avoid being hit (you know, he's the Flash, right? Super speed, hmmkaaay?)

I'm not saying this sort of situation is always the case but I think it's a problem in general when pitting super heroes against 'ordinary' people.

That being said what I am enjoying the most about The Gifted is the writing. Early on I said the show reminded me of Heroes (and it still does) but the one main difference between the two shows is just how much better the writing for The Gifted is. Even when compared to early Heroes when the writing wasn't piss poor. The Gifted are also properly developing their characters and they giving their characters proper reactions to real life situations (like when Blink got mad at Dreamer and Thunderbird for messing with her mind and not telling her about it afterwards or when Reed decides that he's going to help Sentinel Services only to pull out after he realised he'd made a mistake. They didn't make him the self-sacrificing hero from the start but instead they brought him through a process of resigned acceptance, to regret, and then through to action).

The casting of the mother as a Nurse (and not a doctor) is also great because even though she is clearly the 'go to' character for medical emergencies she is not immediately some know-it-all medico for whom no situation is too large. She has only a limited skillset, she recognises her limited skillset, and does everything she can to work around it.

It's just an ordinary show about ordinary people reacting in ordinary ways (super powers notwithstanding!!!). If this show does not get a 2nd season order I will be mighty upset.
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Postby Steve C » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:35 am

The Flash is actually a good example. It constantly reminds the audience; Hey! This is show! It uses tons of TV tropes and manufactured drama. It's still "fun" and I like watching it because of that, but I'd never call it "good."

The perfect example of what I mean is from Raiders of the Lost Ark. The script planned to go through the big choreographed sword fight. The correct choice (of course) was what we got. We got the good stuff because an actor turned around and asked, How come I just don't ____? Anyone who asks that in a scene needs to get an answer, even if the answer is "Don't worry about it. Movie logic." Flash is a good comparison because the answer is always "Don't worry about it." Gifted is pretty good at avoiding that. So when Gifted screws up it's extra noticeable.

It is the difference between watching a show that tickles the brain vs taking it out and setting it on the shelf until the show is over. I agree that the writing is good. I'm just stressing that because the writing is so good that it makes it harder to dismiss where it fails. Cause my brain is still in my head.

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